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No, Joker and Green Goblin Didn't Have A Point

What Joker knew about the true face of Gotham's citizens, Batman knew that all too. This monologue was nothing new to him. And yet Batman chose to do his service selflessly.

By Satyam Ghimire | Date: 2024 January 27


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I have seen this kind of posts on Facebook maybe like a thousand times. Some years ago I used to even agree with this. Yes, Joker is better than Batman. He makes more sense, I used to think. But now I have realized that Joker's argument never really added up to anything. Only I was immature.

some facebook posts about Joker

Some quotes with Joker photo I usually find on Facebook.

The point of our civilization is to go on, to be better than yesterday, not anarchy and chaos. It's to show inspiring examples, like Batman, like he said that a hero could be anyone, even doing something as simple as putting a coat on a boy's shoulder, to let him know the world had not ended.

Joker’s monologue to batman in The Dark Knight

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What Joker knew about the true face of Gotham's citizens, Batman knew that all too. This monologue was nothing new to him. And yet Batman chose to do his service selflessly. He tried to be better and make the city safer. Not give up to hopelessness and sadness, even in his dark times.

What Joker told and believed all throughout the movie only makes sense if we have to let chaos spread. Introducing a little anarchy. What Joker wanted and was a symbol of. But obviously, though we may find it appealing, at the end of the day we audience do not want that.

I now look at Joker and not see him as a smart psychopath with a realistic view of the people, you know ahead of the curve, but as an idiot, a short sighted maniac who only complained and complained and did no work himself to improve the system and was actually an obstacle for goodness.

And there is another Super villain from another Universe that also lectured the Superhero about the true nature of people. Green Goblin.

Green Goblin’s monologue to Spiderman in Spiderman movie

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And he was the same as well. An Ambassador of complaining who did himself nothing to improve the society and made the matter even worse. The point is Spider man knew that too. And yet he chose to believe in the human spirit and hope. He knew people would only find him amusing for a while, and would love to see him fail, but he did help people anyway. Because he believed people are better than that and they could be better.

Later in The Dark Knight, it was shown in this little social experiment scene that people are somehow cute. And in Spider man 2, the aftermath of the train scene also showed that people did care about the hero who saved them.

Social experiment scene from The Dark Knight

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Spiderman saves the train in Spiderman 2

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This contradicted Joker's and Green Goblin's argument. One more reason why they were wrong.

Joker and Green Goblin divided by Universe

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Characters like this may appear right and smart, only when we don't give any reasonable thought to their arguments, but accept them as they are presented. You know, when we don't bother to think clearly and forget who we actually are, what's our duty here. But that is entertainment and art, the surrender of our thoughts and reasons. A little escape.





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